7 February 2012

Leveson Inquiry: Hearings - Day 38

LEVESON INQUIRY:CULTURE, PRACTICE AND ETHICS OF THE PRESS

"I want this inquiry to mean something", not end up as "footnote in some professor of journalism's analysis of 21 century history." LJ Leveson in reply to A Rusbridger's submission to Inquiry.

Lord Justice Leveson
From Guardian:
Here's a quick reminder of the four modules within this first year of the inquiry.
Module 1: The relationship between the press and the public and looks at phone-hacking and other potentially illegal behaviour
Module 2: The relationships between the press and police and the extent to which that has operated in the public interest
Module 3: The relationship between press and politicians
Module 4: Recommendations for a more effective policy and regulation that supports the integrity and freedom of the press while encouraging the highest ethical standards.

Leveson Inquiry Witness Statements HERE
Witness list for this week (6th - 9th February) to be found HERE 
Video Recordings of each day's proceedings HERE
Live Feed From Leveson Inquiry Site HERE
BBC Democracy Live Feed HERE 



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Today's links to articles, info and comments relevant to the Leveson Inquiry (frequently updated) :
 Here is a little more from PA on developments in the phone-hacking case at the high court this morning:
The Metropolitan Police Service today accepted at the high court that failure in 2006 and 2007 to warn victims and potential victims of phone hacking was unlawful.
News of the acceptance that it had "breached a legal obligation" came as two judges in London heard that a number of claimants – including former deputy prime minister Lord Prescott – had settled judicial review proceedings brought against the Met over "failures to warn victims".
Lord Justice Gross and Mr Justice Irwin were told that the two sides had reached agreement by Hugh Tomlinson QC, representing Lord Prescott, ex Met police deputy assistant commissioner Brian Paddick, actor Jude Law's personal assistant Ben Jackson, MP Chris Bryant and an anonymous individual known as HJK.
    • From Guardian Live Blog: 2:21 p.m. 
    Financial Times media correspondent Ben Fenton has just tweeted the paper's statement on Buscombe's claim that it threatened to leave the PCC over an adverse adjudication.

    • From Guardian Live Blog: 2:49 p.m.
    The PCC has just sent us this statement on Buscombe's evidence:
    Baroness Buscombe was giving a personal recollection of her conversations and experiences whilst at the PCC, during her evidence at the Leveson Inquiry this morning.
    The PCC has not received any formal proposals from these publishers to withdraw from the system in recent years.

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      Tuesday 7th February 2012
      ( Link to Hearing 37 HERE )


       

      Today's Witnesses:
      Baroness Buscombe ( ex-PCC )
      Colin Crowell ( Twitter )
      James Harding ( Editor, the Times ) Recalled by LJ Leveson
      Dominic Mohan ( Editor, the Sun ) Recalled by LJ Leveson
      Gary Morgan ( Splash )
      Neil Turner ( The BPPA )
      Ronald Zink ( Microsoft Bing )

      Witness Statement to be read:
      Simon Citron ( Yahoo )


      From Guardian Live Blog:
      The inquiry is now under way. Lord Justice Leveson says he is "extremely unhappy" that the conflict between Hugh Grant and the Daily Mail yesterday afternoon "did damage" to the "appropriate flow of this inquiry".
      Leveson adds that he is "not entirely happy" that the inquiry was "bombarded" with statements relating to Hugh Grant late on Friday.
      "I won't allow this type of situation to develop again," he says.
      However, he adds that "the matter should be "ventilated for a little additional time" in the interest of fairness later this week. "That's not negotiable," he says.
      The concerned parties have until 2pm to consider how this should be arranged for minimum convenience.
      The two issues at stake are the Mail on Sunday's "plummy voiced executive" story, which resulted in Grant's allegations about the newspaper group and its "mendacious smear" response; and the intrusion on the birth of Grant and Tinglan Hong's child.
      Caplan says it is not right that Dacre should be recalled. It "is going to create an imbalance and avert from the way in which this inquiry has been conducted," he tells Leveson.

      Baroness Buscombe  










      Ben Fenton
      [Back to , where Baroness Buscombe, who left as chairman of PCC amid heavy criticism of failure to address phone hacking]

      Hacked off
      Buscombe: Every PCC case is bespoke. System works to minimise harm and hurt and free so access to justice is respected.


      From Guardian Live Blog:
      PressBof we looking for someone "who was supportive of the system" of self-regulation and could build trust in it, Buscombe says."If you have someone who doesn't even trust a system at the outset then you have a problem," she says. "It doesn't mean they don't want to test the system."
      Buscombe says the PCC is fast, flexible, free and can minimise "the harm and the hurt". She says in contrast, very few people leave a court of law happy.She says it would be to society's "peril" if the PCC lost its complaints-handling mechanism.

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : "nonsense" to suggest Dacre running PCC

      IndexLeveson
      Buscombe: terribly important for us to demonstrate that this Commission is entirely separate part of industry 


      IndexLeveson
      Buscombe: my issue was with those giving us permission to try and improve funding & resources to do better job

      Josh Halliday
      Baroness Buscombe, fmr chairman of PCC, says it was "hard to argue we’re entirely independent from those we oversee”

      Hacked off
      Buscombe: It's always been easier to attack the PCC than take on the industry. This includes politicians. 

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : thought that we were being used as a scapegoat

      Hacked off
      Buscombe: We felt very much that we had been used as a scapegoat (over phone hacking scandal. Jay refers to 2009 PCC report.

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe asked by why she qualified her support for self-regulation in her statement.

      IndexLeveson
      Buscombe says she wants to support self-regulatory system, is a real problem with alternative (i.e. statutory).

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : we felt we hadn't been told the truth, editor asked - "don't you trust us?"

      Ben Fenton
      Buscome replied with heavy heart: "How can I?" Felt we were not tell the truth over phone hacking.

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe: I couldn't get to the overarching bodies. The Newspaper Publishers Assoc and the Newspaper Society.

      Ben Fenton
      They hold the power to ensure the credibility of a self-reg system, Buscombe tells
       
      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Buscombe says she could not get to the overarching bodies of the press: the Newspaper Publishers Association and the Newspaper Society.
      She adds that she is "amazed" those bodies have not been called to give evidence.
      Buscombe says she sent a letter to proprietors and the overarching bodies in April last year to "spell out my concern that there was a real issue of trust in the industry now".
      Rebuilding trust is "do-able but it's tough call," she adds.

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : sent letter in April last year to publishers and proprietors saying there was a real issue of trust in the system 

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe blames Newspaper Publishers Association for not reforming PCC

      Josh Halliday
      Turning into a delayed valedictory from Baroness Buscombe. She has had 7 months to reflect on failings and distrust.

      Hacked off
      Jay refers back to the PCC 2009 report on phone hacking. Toulmin drafted report and was discussed with Buscombe and commission. 

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : I was never comfortable with 2009 report saying Guardian phone hacking stories didn't live up to billing

      Ben Fenton
      [Buscombe much tougher on industry for failings of the PCC than either Meyer or Hunt, the other PCC chairmen]

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : I regret report, regret I was misled by News Int, that I accepted what they had told me

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : can't remember whether she expressed any disquiet about the report with which she says she wasn't comfortable

      Ben Fenton
      "What cd we do? Imagine the reaction if we had done nothing. " Buscombe to #leveson

      Ben Fenton
      says she cd have said they weren't a regulator. Buscombe: At the time we thought we were a regulator.

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe: "I was never comfortable with putting my name to 2009 PCC report" (criticising Guardian) on hacking

      Ben Fenton
      Jay reminds her she gave speech to Society of Editors expressing satisfaction with status quo. She rejects.

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe: "I was clearly misled by News International. I accepted what they told me."

      Steve Hewlett

      Busconmbe at check out BB 's SoE speech....not sure "never comfortable" with PCC attacking Gdn quite nails it....


      Ross Hawkins
      Jay points out her speech says they live in over regulated world, yet to hear constructive alternative to PCC

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : maybe I was being too subtle in proviso at the end of the speech, where she asks for freedom to develop PCC rapidly


      Guardian Live Blog: (Full Text Baroness Buscombe's Speech to SoE)
      Buscombe accepts that she may have been "too subtle" with a proviso at the end of her Society of Editors speech, when she said:
      There is plenty to build on. I have told you about the tremendous range of work we do to help people out, and to right wrongs. That these things work is a great tribute both to the team at the PCC and also to the industry as a whole. It shows self-regulation working at a very basic level. This activity is low key but all the more successful for it. It should be better known. But there is no need – in 21st century Britain – for an individual to feel powerless in 'taking on' the press. The PCC will always be there to help.
      In return, I will expect the industry to give the PCC the freedom to develop rapidly – if necessary – to exploit the opportunities presented by media convergence. We have shown that we can be trusted with the freedom we have enjoyed from the state and from the industry over the last two decades. Now is our chance to show how our model can be trusted in future.
      "You have to remember I am talking to the press. I am talking to people who will mischief make," she tells Jay.
      Buscombe says that at the time of her Society of Editors speech she was becoming "more and more frustrated" with the PCC's inability to up its game "due to a lack of resource and a lack of support".


      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : editors expressed fury & anger on phone after critical adjudications, effect was massive

      IndexLeveson
      Buscombe: I'd love you to have been at the end of the phone, as I was sometimes, when we had issued a critical adjudication 

      Ross Hawkins
      - don't you think the anger might be PCC had nerve to criticise their judgement - B - that's exactly it

      Gordon Rayner
      Buscombe: FT, Guardian and Mirror all threatened to leave PCC because they were unhappy with adjudications against them  

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe says one editor rang the PCC and was abusive because we had audacity to put paper's name on the website "It was the FT". 

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe says Guardian theatened to leave PCC because of critical adjudication. Not true 

      alan rusbridger
      Guardian said would leave PCC if it tried to ban Erwin James or others writing abt prison
       


      Hacked off
      Buscombe: We didn't dismiss the Guardian's claims but we were constrained in terms of our locus.


      IndexLeveson
      asks if there is now no public trust. Buscombe says it is a problem, asks how one rebuilds it. "That, sir, is a tough call for you"

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe says explicitly now that she was "lied to" over hacking and took what police told her "on trust"  

      Gordon Rayner
      Buscombe: one didn't want to mistrust what one was being told by the police on phone  

      Gordon Rayner
      Buscombe 'regrets' saying lawyer Mark Lewis had got it wrong when he sd there were 6,000 victims. Lewis sued PCC and won 

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe says "we were terribly constrained on this" We agonised over it. Were terribly frustrated by our position.

      Ben Fenton
      We couldn't investigate. We could be hostages to fortune. We could raise expectations we couldn't meet.

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : there wasn't a day that went by at the PCC where we weren't troubled by this

      Ben Fenton
      Ofcom can't deal with crime, nor should it, Buscombe tells . Nor could PCC. People were misconstruing our role.


      Ben Fenton
      Reality is it is about culture. Can you have a system that changes the culture in newsrooms? [the best question in so far?]

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : in one instance publisher never forgave me after I said it was appalling editor named 3 victims of sexual assault

      Josh Halliday
      Buscombe, fmr PCC chair: "These are people [editors and props] where you have to tread carefully to gain access"



      Hacked off
      Buscombe: I was very careful about what I put in letter to James Murdoch. You have to tread carefully to get access to proprietors.

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe: "I told publishers 'PCC system is in peril'. They said "Peta, we've been here before"

      Ciaran Jenkins
      Former Chair of PCC says she communicated concerns over hacking to James Murdoch in a "coded message", "have to tread carefully"


      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : we changed really important things like the appointments process

      Ben Fenton
      Jay has challenged Buscombe with the idea that PCC just wasn't important enough to influence proprietors.

      Hacked off
      Buscombe: I went to see Desmond but wasn't really my role, was actually role of PressBoF.  



      James Ball
      Last time I tweeted on public remarks of Peta Buscombe she got, er, quite cross: –so I'll stay quiet this time


      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Buscombe is asked about Daily Express and Daily Star owner Richard Desmond.Buscombe brought Desmond back into the fold following the departure of Sir Christopher Meyer.
      She says she did not attempt to bring him back in when his newspapers left the PCC last year.
      "I knew I was overstepping the mark in terms of the system – it wasn't my role to do that," she says of not attempting to convince Desmond a second time.
      She says his departure "compromised the credibility of the system as a whole".

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe: Desmond defection compromised the credibility of the PCC. [I think most of us could agree on that] 

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : there may have to be some sort of backstop power for compliance to the system

      Ross Hawkins
      Buscombe at : do you include all the bloggers who hold themselves out and maybe are journalists?

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe: I introduced Kitemark as an idea some time ago [she and I discussed it at the time of that FT article] 


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Buscombe is asked about Lord Hunt's proposals for a new watchdog based on a contractual system.She says it is "very difficult" to compel all publishers to buy into the new body.
      She suggests a "statutory backstop" would be a good start, but adds: "A lot of thought should be given … to how all those could be brought on board," referring to online publishers.
      She says she has long advocated a system of kitemarking for newspaper websites.

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe to : "I've been re-reading [Waugh's] Scoop, Sir, which just about sums it all up."

      Ben Fenton
      Buscombe endorses whistleblowing to help expose the culture of newsrooms. is supportive of this. Criticises editors who moan at PCC

      Ross Hawkins
      Guardian lawyer rises to put Buscombe right on threat to resign from PCC claim, says was in 03 but not over critical adjudication 

      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe withdraws claim that Guardian threatened to resign over a critical adjudication.
      Guardian Live Blog:
      For the most part the newspaper industry abides by the rules, Buscombe says, adding that the culture of some newsrooms has to be "thought through".She recommends a system of whistleblowing in every news organisation.
      "Change must take place. This isn't something that can be a quick fix," she says.



      alan rusbridger
      Buscombe says Gdn MD threatened to quit PCC over the 2009 hacking report [later withdrawn, with apologies, by PCC] 

      From Guardian live Blog:
      Financial Times media correspondent Ben Fenton has just tweeted:
      Live blog: Twitter [The FT tells me it, like Guardian,rejects the idea it threatened to quit the PCC over an adverse adjudication.Considering a full statement]
       1:50 p.m. - From Guardian Live Blog:

      Trinity Mirror, publisher of the Daily and Sunday Mirror, has denied that it threatened to leave the PCC, as claimed by Baroness Buscombe during her evidence.
      The BBC journalist Henry Price has tweeted a section of Trinity Mirror's statement, which we will publish in full once we have it:
      All three publishers that Buscombe claimed to have threatened to leave the PCC in recent years over critical adjudications have now denied it.




      Henry Clarke Price
      PCC statement: “Baroness Buscombe was giving a personal recollection of her conversations and experiences whilst at the PCC..."(1/3)

      Henry Clarke Price
      "...during her evidence at the Leveson Inquiry this morning." (2/3)

      Henry Clarke Price
      "The PCC has not received any formal proposals from these publishers to withdraw from the system in recent years.” (3/3)


      Colin Crowell






      Josh Halliday
      The inquiry could show its respect to Colin Crowell by referring to him as "at Colin underscore Crowell", as is only right.

      Gordon Rayner
      Crowell, head of global public policy for Twitter, has flown in from Washington DC to give evidence

      Gordon Rayner
      Crowell of says 100 million active users. Billionth tweet took 3yrs 2months, now they have billion tweets every 4 days 

      Philippa Thomas
      "Our corporate goal is to reach everyone on the planet" head of Global Public Policy Colin Crowell to inquiry

      Ross Hawkins
      Twitter at : accepts users can send abusive and defamatory messages anonymously

      Henry Clarke Price

      Twitter rules being referred to at are here:



      Ben Fenton
      Barr is going through Twitter's rules on abusive Tweets and on privacy,which he says reflect a more relaxed US attitude to privacy.

      Hacked off
      Crowell: Under British system individuals can go to the law. Twitter UK doesn't deal with content issues, under US jurisdiction.

      Gordon Rayner
      : if you took down a person's account, there would be nothing to stop someone setting up fresh account and doing same thing
      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Crowell says that Twitter deals with issues "reactively" so it deals with content after it has been published. "The tweets flow," he says, repeating the company's mantra.Crowell confirms that Twitter's new policy on censoring tweets in certain countries has not yet been used.
      The new policy means that Twitter can deal with issues on a country-by-country basis.
      Crowell is asked how fast a story can propagate on Twitter.
      Crowell says that news events often propagate "very speedily" on Twitter, often before news organisations have learnt of the events.
      Barr asks about contempt of court.
      Crowell says that Twitter would be able to identify the person behind contemptuous tweets if served with a US court order.
      12.56pm: Barr asks whether Twitter would comply with a UK press regulator.
      Crowell says it would be a matter of whether the regulator was in the jurisdiction that would have the legal entity to authorise it.
      He describes it is up to politicians and courts to decide what the "authorised entity" is in the UK, but Twitter would comply with that.

      James Harding







      Ciaran Jenkins
      The Times went to court in '09 to out police blogger, Nightjack. But did they hack his email to get his ID? Editor next at #Leveson

      Ben Fenton
      James Harding, editor of The Times, recalled to answer questions about NightJack and computer hacking.


      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Harding says from the outset: "I sorely regret the intrusion into Richard Horton's email account by a journalist in our newsroom. On behalf of the newspaper, I apologise."
       The reporter, Patrick Foster, was 24 at the time of the incident.
      Foster sought to identify the author of the NightJack blog. He did so by accessing the blogger's email account, Jay confirms.

      IndexLeveson
      Harding says in past few weeks he's learned a great deal more about incident

      Hacked off
      Jay is taking Harding through emails between reporter Patrick Foster and then news editor Martin Barrow.

      Ben Fenton
      Jay reading emails showing when Foster told newsdesk/legal manager about the story he wanted to run.

      Hacked off
      20 May 2009 Foster email to Barrow: "want a little more space between the dirty deed and publishing".

      Ben Fenton
      Harding repeating that all this evidence has come into the knowledge of the Times only in last week or so.

      Hacked off
      27 May 2009 email Foster to Barrow: "Have pic of him with computer. Going to start fronting up process".

      Ben Fenton
      [In hack speak, "fronting up" means confronting the subject of a story with the material you are planning to publish]

      Ross Hawkins
      Harding to : suggests lawyer tore a strip off Foster - the journo in this story

      Ross Hawkins
      Harding to : if he'd known would have told journo Foster to abandon the story

      Ben Fenton
      Harding:I wd have sd that the intrusion was not warranted in the public interest. But he didn't come to me.

      Ben Fenton
      Foster then managed to "crack it", getting to NightJack's identity via publicly available information. Included a Facebook page.


      Guardian Live blog:
      Harding says that the story did have a public interest but not sufficient to warrant the intrusion.
      The inquiry hears how Foster later sent an email to Brett to say: "I can do the whole lot from publicly available information." Harding understands this was through the Facebook friends of Richard Horton's brother.
      Brett replied that that may be the "golden bullet" and asked him to set it out on paper.

      Ross Hawkins
      Harding at : arguing it was only after court hearing that senior Times managers heard about the email hacking allegation

      IndexLeveson
      Email from Times lawyer Alastair Brett to Foster, re doing story w/publicly-accessible info: "Brilliant. That may be golden bullet"  

      Hacked off
      Jay shows email between Brett and Horton's lawyer informing him Times will publish article on client.


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Harding says the first time the Times's senior management became aware of the litigation or the email hacking was after Mr Justice Eady had begun hearing the case – but before judgment.
      He adds that it is "very very unusual" that the legal manager will take a case to the high court without reference to the editor.
      Brett is an "extremely distinguished and well respected lawyer," Harding says, adding that the lawyer wanted to take this case on partly because of "creeping privacy legislation" and anonymity on the web. Brett is extremely apologetic for not informing him, Harding says.

      Ross Hawkins
      Jay suggests statements of fact put to court by Times lawyers were incorrect

      ian katz
      Times's submission in the Nightjack case was breathtakingly misleading given chief lawyer knew story was product of hacked email


      Hacked off
      Jay points out Barnes was instructed by Brett and Foster. Harding has said he wasn't aware of situation until after Eady hearing.

      Ross Hawkins
      gets to the nub of it - Times barristers in court hearing wouldn't have said what they said if they knew full facts

      Hacked off
      Horton's lawyer said suspected email hacking. Brett replied saying this was a "baseless allegation".

      Ben Fenton
      Times' lawyer said it was "baseless accusation" when NightJack's lawyer sd Foster had hacked email while at Oxford University.

      Hacked off
      Foster's witness statement implies had confidential source and used deduction. calls this disingenuous in light of "what we know".

      Ross Hawkins
      Jay says lawyer smelt a rat that got smellier and smellier

      Ross Hawkins
      (blogger leading way on this story & witness) says he's submitted qs for Harding to inquiry

      Ciaran Jenkins
      The Times expressly rejected claims its journalist had obtained info by hacking email. The paper now accepts the claim

      Ben Fenton
      says he is not so much concerned with "this particular incident" as how it was dealt with "across the system".

      Ben Fenton
      [although might want to ask how Mr Foster got into the email in the first place.]


      Martin Hickman
      James Harding's cheeks a little florid as he is asked to explain why The Times lied to a court about Nightjack. 

      Ross Hawkins
      Harding at : I'm as shocked as you to see Horton's lawyers raised on six occasions concerns about accessing email account



      David Allen Green
      This is where I suggested key issue re was why the Court dealing with privacy injunction not told:

      David Allen Green
      News - I can confirm that Richard Horton is now taking legal advice on a privacy claim against The Times.   

      Hacked off
      Jay, and Harding discussing the injunction applied for by Horton. It was not granted by Eady J.

      Hacked off
      Harding says he first found out about matter on 5 June 2009 in a meeting with Chappell.

      Ross Hawkins
      The facts of the Times hacking aren't disputed by the paper; this has become about who knew what when 

      Ben Fenton
      Harding says he didn't know exactly what Foster had done. Issues all coming at same time. Why were we doing it.Why gone to court?


      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay is reading legal correspondence between a lawyer and barrister for the Times. It suggests that Foster told the legal team on the night before the court hearing that he had used email hacking.
      Horton's lawyers wrote to the Times to say Foster was "rusticated" for hacking computers at Oxford University. That made the newspaper's lawyers think there might be a big problem.
      The Times's lawyer told Foster "never ever think of doing what you've done again" and was advised by the barrister that there might be a public interest defence. It is suggested that without this possible defence, the reporter would have been dismissed.
      Jay points out that there is no public interest defence under the Computer Misuse Act.
      Harding first heard of the issue on 5 June at a meeting with the Times's lawyer and a concern that Foster had accessed NightJack's email account.
      Harding says "the biggest shock" was that the Times had taken a case to the high court without him being informed. "We probably didn't drill down into what exactly Mr Foster was to have done," he says.
      He decided immediately that the paper should undertake disciplinary action against Foster.


      Ben Fenton
      Jay moves on to the decision to publish, [taken 10 days after Harding was told that Foster had accessed an email account. ]

      Ben Fenton
      Jay says [key point] judge may well not have allowed Times to publish if he had known about the computer hacking.

      Ben Fenton
      Harding says he was aware of concern over what Foster did, but did not know exactly what he did until very recently.

      Hacked off
      Harding: I was involved in decision to publish NightJack story as in the public interest.

      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Following this, there was a discussion at the paper over whether to publish the story.
      An email from a Times lawyer on 14 June shows the newspaper was considering the public interest in publishing the storTen days later Mr Justice Eady's judgment was provided to the Times in draft form.y. "The third issue is what do we do about Patrick?" it added.
      Harding says he "aware we had a concern", but did not know exactly what Foster had done.
       Harding says he was involved in the discussion over whether to publish the story in the public interest.
      He says that he was occupied by events in Iran at the time, and the public interest discussion should have happened before the newspaper went to the high court.
      He says he took the view that the story was "firmly in the public interest" based partly on the view that the police blogger was in breach of his public duties, partly on Mr Justice Eady's ruling and the belief that the identity of NightJack had been uncovered by legitimate means. However, he acknowledges there were questions over the behaviour of Foster.

      Hacked off
      Email between Chappell and Brett on consequences if found out Foster hacked account. Asks if Eady judgment "gets us off the hook".

      Ross Hawkins
      Harding at : we felt we had little choice but to publish


      Ben Fenton
      Harding can't explain why no-one suggested telling Eady about the illegal email accession.

      Ciaran Jenkins
      Jay: At no stage did anybody suggest to you that these matters ought to be brought to the attention of the judge? Harding: No 

      Ross Hawkins
      Harding at : it's terrible... every time we've learned new things about this we've brought it to your attention

      Hacked off
      Harding: We take this inquiry very seriously and every time we've learnt new things about this have brought to your attention.  

      From Guardian Live Blog:
      The Times published a companion comment piece by Richard Horton, author of the NightJack blog, on the day that it exposed him as being behind the blog.Horton said in the article:
      There was a lot of attention heading towards my blog and I was nervous that somehow, despite my efforts, my identity would come out. As an anonymous blogger, I was just another policing Everyman but if it came out that I worked in Lancashire, I knew that some of my writing on government policy, partner agencies, the underclass and criminal justice would be embarrassing for the constabulary.
      Also, as an anonymous police blogger I was shielded from any consequences of my actions but without that protection there were clearly areas where I would have to answer for breaches in the expected standards of behaviour for officers.
      When it became clear that my identity would be published, I went to court to stop The Times from publishing. I failed, as it was decided that the public right to know about me outweighed any claim to personal privacy.
      My blog is gone now, deleted, slowly melting away post by post as it drops off the edge of the Google cache. My family life has changed in ways that they did not want, and that is down to me.

      Hacked off
      Harding: If we'd had an audit trail in place then I'm sure alarm bells would have gone off much sooner.


      From Guardian live Blog:
      Harding admits: "When you look back on this it's terrible."He adds: "We take this inquiry very seriously and when we have learned new things we have brought them to your attention."
      Jay points out that a Times news story on 19 January this year still stated: "The role the hacking played in Mr Foster's investigation remains unclear."
      Harding says he has attempted to apologise to Horton. Horton has contacted his lawyers, says the editor.

      Dominic Mohan



      2nd Witness Statement in Full


      Jonathan Haynes
      Dominic Mohan up at - to be quizzed first on phone hacking …

      Ben Fenton
      Jay asks about phone hacking: a surprise question for us watchers .

      Josh Halliday
      Dominic Mohan, editor of the Sun, is up and asked about phone hacking while he was editor of the paper's Bizarre column

      Ben Fenton
      Was editing Bizarre column with Victoria Newton. Story about Liam Gallagher/Patsy Kensit splitting.

      Ben Fenton
      "a stream of fierce rows over the phone" - what was the source of the story. Mohan can't remember.

      Hacked off
      Jay is asking Mohan about a series of articles from when he was Bizarre editor. First one "Liam and Patsy on the rocks" from 1998.

      Hacked off
      Sean Hoare and Ally Ross on the showbiz team at the time.

      Ben Fenton
      Mohan says there is nothing in the story suggesting a voicemail message. Not uncommon for people to tell you about phone calls. 

      Hacked off
      Story refers to stream of fierce rows over the phone. Mohan says would have come from contacts close to the couple.

      Ben Fenton
      Jay asks Mohan about another story involving Martine McCutcheon. Mohan can't remember. One of his staff had good Martine contact.

      Ross Hawkins
      Mohan at : often words of celebrity or agent reported as "pals say"

      Hacked off
      Articles on actress Martine McCutcheon and singer Mark Baron using "pals say" and actor Sid Owen mentioning phone calls.

      Dr Evan Harris
      . This line of q's is from a Private Eye article from April 2011 which the Inquiry didn't put to Mohan 1st time round


      Ross Hawkins
      Mohan at : asked whether stories came from phone hacking says can't remember specific of those stories

      Ben Fenton
      Jay asks about a Spice Girls story.Mel C "bombarded with phone calls". Mohan can't remember the story.

      Hacked off
      [Jay is trying to establish whether any stories obtained by hacking. Mohan says he can't remember sources as so long ago.]

      Ben Fenton
      Jay is suggesting that the phrase "bombarding with phone calls" or making late night calls is code for phone hacking.

      Ben Fenton
      Might these be phone hacked. Can't say 100pct and there is an inquiry, but you are picking stories over 3 years.

      Ross Hawkins
      Mohan at : Q - might stories have been obtained by hacking into voicemails? A - I can't say 100pc

      Hacked off
      Mohan: "Bombarding with phone calls" a bit of colour to illustrate a story about a relationship or split.

      Ben Fenton
      Mohan can't remember the source of that story. Not aware that illegal access is source of any of these stories.

      Ben Fenton
      [Jay has come out v strong on Mohan. There was criticism he was too weak last time. ]

      Jonathan Haynes
      Dominic Mohan's position on Page 3 "represents youth and freshness … celebrates natural beauty … and it's legal"

      Dr Evan Harris
      Delighted that Editor of the Sun is being asked about page 3. 43 years ago racist jokes and homophobia were acceptable.


      Ben Fenton
      Mohan on page 3: It is 42 year old British institution that celebrates natural beauty (no plastic surgery) Accepted by most Brits.

      Peter Hunt
      SUN Editor Dominic Mohan on Page 3: it represents youth, freshness and it celebrates natural beauty.

      Hacked off
      Mohan: Page 3 is legal and I think it's become quite an innocuous British institution. It's tolerated by majority of society.

      Dr Evan Harris
      Mohan: Page 3 is not "sexual" apparantly. >> Is it anthropology?

      Ben Fenton
      Page 3 girls take part in campaigns eg about availability of cancer drugs, unsafe breast implants.


      Hacked off
      Mohan: The girls are good role models, they look very healthy unlike catwalk models.

      Dr Evan Harris
      Mohan 1) Not sexist because we are against rape. 2) Topless women are role models for girls

      Ben Fenton
      Jay:a rather stupid piece of popular science that looking at p3 girls would make you brainy. [can't say I read that one]

      Dr Evan Harris
      The Clare Short story was a vicious personal attack on her for opposing page 3. Suggested she was jealous. Was bullying.

      Hacked off
      Jay asks Mohan about the use of "Mitchell brothers" to describe Kelly Brook's chest. "Are you proud of that language?"



      Dr Evan Harris

      Glad to see Object submission they worked so hard putting together getting an airing. Sad to see Mohan missing point.



      Hacked off
      Mohan: I don't think piece eroticises sexual harassment. Spoof picture from Alison Jackson, meant to be lighthearted.



      CathElliott
      Is he seriously going to try and defend the use of the word 'tart' in a headline? Nope. "It grates with me"

      Hacked off
      Mohan: We've raised our game in terms of transgender reporting. I'm making attempts to change approach.

      IndexLeveson
      Mohan asked about headline "Tran or woman?" He says doesn't think it was our greatest moment

      Hacked off
      Mohan: Page 3 is a matter of taste. We've crossed the line of the code with transgender issues and had one complaint upheld.






      Guardian Live Blog:
      Mohan says the Sun has improved its reporting of transgender issues.He points to a front-page article last week whose subject had undergone a transgender operation. This person wrote to Mohan recently to thank the paper for its sensitive reporting.
      "We've raised our game in terms of transgender reporting," he says.
      Mohan is asked about a Sun headline, "Tran or woman?". He says: "I don't think that's our greatest moment, to be honest."

      Matthew Cochrane
      Funny to see The Sun at saying that it's treatment of transgendered people has improved whilst printing this:


      Hacked off
      Mohan: I believed consent had been given to run the story on Gordon Brown's child having cystic fibrosis. Otherwise would not have.

      Front Page after Gordon Brown accused NI of hacking/blagging



      Dr Evan Harris
      The fact is that the Sun publishing medical info about a child is unlawful intrusion regardless of where the info came from.

      From Guardian Live Blog:
      Jay asks about a Sun story in 2006 that Gordon Brown's son had cystic fibrosis. The Sun later said that a member of the public phoned in with the tip for the story and Mohan understood that consent had been given for the story."I don't think would have been published without consent," says Mohan. "I wouldn't have published it without consent."
      The Sun's source swore an affidavit that the story was not illegally obtained, Mohan says.
      Asked why he would not run the story without consent, Mohan says the story is "an extremely sensitive issue".
      Mohan spoke to the journalists involved in the original story who indicated that consent had been given, he says. An official Treasury spokesman is quoted in the story, Mohan points out.


      Jonathan Haynes
      Mohan being asked about Operation Elvedon arrests of Sun journalists

      Hacked off
      Jay: Where you aware arrests under Operation Elveden were to take place (in Jan)? Mohan: No I wasn't.


      Gary Morgan
















      Kieran Dunne
      Splash News VP, Gary Morgan now up on . The people pap website (one of few Splash sites):


      Hacked off
      Gary Morgan is co-founder and chief exec of Splash news and picture agency. He is a former tabloid journalist from the UK.

      Ross Hawkins
      Gary Morgan of Splash celeb photo agency via videolink at

      Ross Hawkins
      Video link isn't the finest ; barrister hearing herself back on line, long delay

      Hacked off
      Splash was sold last year to Corbis for an undisclosed sum. Morgan now senior VC of the company.

      Hacked off
      Splash has 18 employees in the UK, 9 of them are staff photographers.

      Hacked off
      Splash has 2700 freelance photographers worldwide. 15 percent have UK addresses.

      Hacked off
      Morgan: Sensitivity to privacy concerns is higher in the UK than in the US. We abide by PCC code and law.

      IndexLeveson
      Morgan: I don't think PCC is comprehensive enough for photographers at all 

      IndexLeveson
      Morgan: staff photographers we hire are expected to know law and PCC 

      YancyFaith
      Splash VP: PCC is geared to print based media. Needs to be more comprehensive & include digital. Pushing for US agcy like PCC

      Hacked off
      Morgan: Staff photographers are expected to know the law, the PCC and have experience in newsgathering to know when to stop.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Splash relies on its picture and news desk to oversee the behaviour of its staff.
      Morgan says there is a "no-shoot list" that contains the names of celebrities who do not wish to be photographed.

      YancyFaith
      Splash - has media upload agreement: photogs agree not to violate anyone's privacy. Fast-track or slow-track for approval.

      Hacked off
      Patry-Hoskins asks about case of Tinglan Hong, mother of Hugh Grant's child, who is said subjected to harassment by photographers.

      Hacked off
      PH says a staff photographer from Splash was identified as driving aggressively at Hong's mother.

      Hacked off
      Morgan: I believe his story that he didn't drive at her. It's his word against hers.

      Guardian Live Blog:
      Morgan is asked about allegations by Tinglan Hong, mother of Hugh Grant's baby, that she was pursued by photographers.
      Hong's mother claimed that car driven by a photographer drove at her. The car was later traced to Colin MacFarlane, who Morgan confirms is employed by Splash.
      Morgan says that McFarlane was interviewed by Splash's London desk and denied that he drove a car at Hong.
      McFarlane did not face any disciplinary proceedings from Splash, Morgan confirms.
      "If it was established that he had driven at this lady then he would be fired," Morgan says.



      Hacked off
      PH reads out apology to David Walliams and Lara Stone last year over harrassment by photographers. Splash paid damages+ legal fees.

      Hacked off
      Morgan: 3 or 4 female US celebrities used to "go commando" multiple times. Example of encouraging behaviour.

      YancyFaith
      Splash VP: celebs give consent to be photographed by their behavior. People Paparazzi, citizen journos can upload photos via email.

      Hacked off
      Morgan says members of the public can send photos to the agency and are asked same questions as a professional photographer.

      YancyFaith
      - Mr. Morgan, would you be willing to send us a copy of your current UK no-shoot list? Yes. Pls send suggestions for PCC reform.


      Neil Turner

       
       

       



      Hacked off
      We're back. Neil Turner, a freelance photographer and vice chairman of the British Press Photographers' Association, is up first.


      Guardian Live Blog:
      Members of the British Press Photographers Association (BPPA) are "entirely freelance" and work for several employers, including newspapers, magazines and self-generated projects.Turner says it is estimated that there are between 1,800 and 2,000 freelance photographers in the UK.

      Hacked off
      Turner: The term paparazzi is overused. These people are professionals.

      Ross Hawkins
      Photographers' Assoc at : pointing out anyone who wants pic of inquiry has to take it off telly feed
      Bank of photographers outside Leveson Inquiry mentioned by Turner


      Hacked off
      Turner: I think limited stills photographers should, for example, be admitted to hearings.

      IndexLeveson
      Turner says behaviour of professional photographers normally good, ethical, entirely legal

      Hacked off
      Turner: We absolutely insist people abide by the PCC code. If someone doesn't want their picture taken, photographers should stop. 

      Hacked off
      Turner: I think limited stills photographers should be admitted to hearings.

      Hacked off
      Turner: JK Rowling chose not to pass photographers on way in to inquiry. A lot of newspapers wanted pictures of her leaving.

      Hacked off
      Turner: Some photographers took the picture but some felt uneasy about it, even though not breaking the code.

      Hacked off
      Turner: I have spoken to photographers directly about breaking the arrangement to only photograph witnesses in specific place.

      IndexLeveson
      Turner says photographers working for UK newspapers and/or agencies felt pressure to get pic of JK Rowling at Inquiry

      IndexLeveson
      This would breach agreement between photographers and Inquiry officials 

      lisa o'carroll
      JK Rowling had chosen different entrance to court. That explains why all shots of Harry potter author were of her in car that day.
      Guardian Live Blog:
      JK Rowling chose not to enter the Leveson inquiry through the entrance where press photographers were waiting, Turner says.
      Newspapers wanted pictures of Rowling leaving the inquiry – even though Rowling clearly did not wish to be photographed. Individual photographers had to decided whether or not they would satisfy the newspaper or risk breaching the PCC code.
      "Some freelancers who base their living entirely on whether they get the best picture chose that was the best thing for them to do," he says.
      Photographers working for UK national newspapers of agencies were ordered to supply pictures in breach of an agreement with Leveson inquiry officials, Turner says.
      Turner talks about amateur freelance photographers – or "stalkerazzi" as journalism professor Roy Greenslade has dubbed them – whom he says sometimes operate in packs.
      Turner says about two years he went to famous nightspots to observe paparazzi. He says he was "fairly upset" at what he describes as unethical and illegal activity by the photographers.


      Hacked off
      Turner: Illegal and unethical practices include dangerous driving, initiating reactions, "upskirt" pictures, chasing people.

      Peter Howells
      Turner tells of hearsay: 1 photographer picks a fight with someone so another photographer gets some pics of fight. Split the money

      Hacked off
      Turner: The problem with French privacy law is news organisations fear contravening them. Dangerous for culture and legal system.

      Hacked off
      [Turner says if the UK largely imported French privacy law here it would be dangerous.]


      Hacked off
      Turner: The BPPA wants to be part of the solution, not the problem.

      Ross Hawkins
      says responsible photographers like responsible journalists aren't part of problem, need to be part of solution


      Ronald Zinc



          • Microsoft Witness Statement in Full



            From Guardian Live Blog:
            Ronald Zinc, general counsel and chief operating officer of EU affairs for Microsoft's Bing search engine, has taken the stand.

            IndexLeveson
            Now discussing "removal of problematic content" [quoting Barr]

            Hacked off
            Zinc: If you can remove the creator of the content then that eliminates the problem across the entire web.

            Ben Fenton
            [Correction:according to MS website, RonZinK is the COO for EU affairs. staff seem to have made an elementary mistake in spelling]

            From Guardian Live Blog: 
            Zinc says that tackling the people behind websites hosting defamatory content is more practical and effective than going to the search engine.
            "If you can remove the creator of the content then that eliminates the problem across the entire web," he says.
            Barr asks about removal of material from Bing's index in relation to defamation and privacy.Zink confirms that Bing will remove the "minimum necessary to comply with the law" (Barr's phrase).
            He adds that Bing has "robust" mechanisms for bringing down child abuse content.
            Zink says that British internet users can obtain a court order in the UK for Microsoft to remove content from Bing's search results.He adds that users can get in touch with the company through its contact pages. Microsoft will make a judgment on removal requests if it has not been served with a court order.

            Hacked off
            Zink: You would look at a number of different options when dealing with private information going viral, not just search engines.

            Hacked off
            Barr says Max Mosley has made extensive efforts to take down online material but it can still be found.

            IndexLeveson
            Zink confirms that if something removed from may still be available to

            IndexLeveson
            Zink: a browser is just a mechanism to find a resource on the Internet

            Hacked off
            Zink: We can take a closer look at global statement to make avenues of redress clearer to UK users.

            IndexLeveson
            Zink: we put a lot of thought into privacy-enhancing features. Microsoft a leader in this area


            Guardian Live Blog:
            Zink concedes that it is a "complicated" process for users to find webmasters and ask them to remove material.He says that Bing will act on a court order or other credible ruling. Earlier he suggested Bing would take notice of orders from a self-regulatory body in the UK.
             Barr asks about the Microsoft browser Internet Explorer and whether a user might be able to enter a URL and see offending material that had been removed in Bing's search results.
            Zink says this is beyond his technical background and he will answer in writing.

            Hacked off
            asks Microsoft to provide information on how these methods could be used to deal with breaches of privacy and defamation.